what to share, what not to share. that is the question

[ecto135back]

Obviously sharing artist's mp3's and divx movies are quite illegal and im not going to risk a heafty fine over one song, So i was curious on what you guys shared. heres some of my stuff that i was able to fit on my server thats in my shared folder:
Dukes of Hazzard movie trailer:
http://members.shaw.ca/backecto/dukes.wmv
My wedding video:
http://members.shaw.ca/ecto135back/wedsm.rm
a hilarious promo for stargate radio:
http://members.shaw.ca/ecto135back/homer.mp3
a old 8mm film of my family blowing stuff up in the 60's:
http://members.shaw.ca/ecto135back/Burn.wmv
An old mickey mouse cartoon:
http://members.shaw.ca/ecto135back/gb.wmv

then i simply got alot of pics of the making of the dukes of hazzard movie a bud took, some Ghostbusters pics, a couple dukes of hazzard car stunts and some (well Alot) clips from big-boys.com, collagehumor.com and skoopy.com.
It just goes to Prove that not every dude that uses p2p programs "Steals" music/videos. In fact im currently TRYING to download some super old quantum leap episodes from the 80's because i do not beieleve its out on DVD yet (otherwise id have it by now ).

-Brad

[Rat]

Mmmm.... On the other hand, you don't own the copyright to any of the Dukes Of Hazard material, the Ghostbusters material, the Mickey Mouse cartoon or any of the stuff you took from the three web sites you mention. In fact, your only 'legal' shares are your wedding video and the video of your family 'blowing stuff up', which, frankly, are never going to be popular downloads.

Stuff you can share legally includes music, images, videos and applications which have been specifically licensed for that purpose. A good example is software published under the "GNU General Public License", or 'copyleft' as it is also known, such as the GNU operating system or the majority of software for the Linux operating system. Another good licensing system is that of the Creative Commons group, a system I use personally.

You say you are currently "trying" to download some episodes of quantum leap. Where from? If this is WinMX or similar, you'll run into problems with people who are deliberately blocking you because of your lack of shared files... or in some cases, because you don't share the type of files they want. You'll probably have better luck with Bittorrent for this kind of thing but you will find that with BT you *must* upload parts of the episodes you're downloading (so you're every bit as guilty as your sources) because the system relies on all downloaders also being contributing uploaders.

Personal note: I liked the 'blowing stuff up' film. Did any vehicles with blue lights on them arrive while you were doing this?

[ecto135back]

I never knew that disney shorts were Illegal to share. but as for the dukes of hazzard trailer all in all its a good thing, its merely a commercial Promoting one of warner brothers many products. so if someone promotes a product for free, whats the harm right? and as for Sharing files i can understand one not wanting to share with me. but no matter where you go or what you do someones watching you. and if you f*** up and get caught your toast and im not willing to risk that!
And as for Bittorrent im very curious about that program, i do want to try it but at the same time i gotta think about my monthly bandwidth allotment i have. but reguardless i think i will try it just to see what it can do for me in the end after im done some household chores ive been putting off.

-Brad

EDIT: found some of my other files on my buds servers
ever wonder how many Ghostbusters fans there are?
http://www.ghostbusters.net/times.wmv
An awsome General Lee (dukes of hazzard) montage:
http://www.hazzardnet.com/videos/dukes_01.wmv

PS. they blew that stuff up on a huge farm in the 60's! no cops around for miles, not back then.

[Rat]

so if someone promotes a product for free, whats the harm right?

Yeah. Pity the RIAA and the MPAA don't see it that way. I like promoting all kinds of things.

[ecto135back]

found some of my other files on my buds servers
ever wonder how many Ghostbusters fans there are?
http://www.ghostbusters.net/times.wmv
An awsome General Lee (dukes of hazzard) montage:
http://www.hazzardnet.com/videos/dukes_01.wmv
And correct me if im Wrong but by displaying such information (my files are a near perfect example) and Not making any money off of it is a good thing (in a nutshell).

-Brad

[Rat]

And correct me if im Wrong but by displaying such information (my files are a near perfect example) and Not making any money off of it is a good thing (in a nutshell).

No, no correction. You're perfectly right. It's a great thing.


Still not legal though, sadly.

[Grinch]

I say share everything. The sky is the limit. Do you know how many DMCA complaints I have received from my ISP. I lost count. To live in the world of file sharing you must take certain risks. It is kind of like smoking cigarettes. You know they are bad for you but you just can't seem to stop and when you do stop it makes you very cranky and people beg you to smoke again.

As Rat pointed out, there are MP3's that are okay to share as with freeware software and of course Linux. If you are afraid to get caught than don't fileswap. With or without you the p2p community will continue on.

[Rat]

I say share everything. The sky is the limit.

Yes sir! I'd be 'promoting' a hell of a lot more if I had the drive space to do it.

[ecto135back]

Im a 24/7/365 WinMX guy personally. my CPU's on All the time. i checked what uploaded files i had there from last night, and wow! looks like a few peep's wanted a look at the dukes trailer and my family blowing stuff up (not to mention a few amature comedic clips). lol sadly many of them timed out. and yes, i do wish that the arts of film and music were free as they should be however the world runs on Greed, and it shall for hundreds of years to come. one day, long after p2p is no longer existant artists will simply enjoy the fact that many do Enjoy (not buy) there works. until then one must obey the laws and spend spend spend! but at it stands now p2p is hot hot hot! and i see NO reason for our freedom to be haulted in using the program within lawful standards. im one fella whos use is somewhat restricted. even with the modified ports. reguardless im canadian, many here are from North America. I Know My Rights, and im being somewhat kept from exersizing them. id love to jump up onto a soap box outside of shaw cable's HQ and raise some hell but what good will it do? for all we know bill gates and his monkey boys are or already have worked on a windows update to cease the use of p2p networking. it is a shame, but a loophole. if your OS doesnt support p2p programs that is the way for artists not to get millions more dollars from those who pirate with "evil" intentions so to speak. However isnt p2p programs the reason why people buy computers nowadays? its a catch 22 in the end i say.

-Brad

[Grinch]

What makes me laugh is that ISP's are continuosly increasing bandwidth. We have a DSL company here that offers 10MB downloads for $24 USD. Another DSL company is bring fiber optic broadband with speeds up to 30MB. Who needs this kind of speed. I can surf the net and check my e-mail just fine with 56k. Stream videos - I only know a few that do this often enough to warrant more bandwidth. And do you really need 10MB to stream video. Not sure. So why are they increasing their bandwidth and then smack us with a fine when we utilize it to it's full potential. Yes, we do download copyrighted material, so bust those that offer it, not the ones that download it. Anyways, if I have 10mb download speed by god I am going to use it.

[threewing]

Im a 24/7/365 WinMX guy personally.

So, unless you started yesterday, you already have one hell of a share...


However, the decision to share it is up to you...
Don't let you feelings cloud your judgement.

[Rat]

What makes me laugh is that ISP's are continuosly increasing bandwidth. So why are they increasing their bandwidth and then smack us with a fine when we utilize it to it's full potential. Anyways, if I have 10mb download speed by god I am going to use it.

Quite right too. Here's an idea.... Why don't all ISPs, all over the world, start a new tarriff for users that want to use p2p? The new tarriff could cost a couple of US dollars above the price of the standard tarriff. The extra cash could be sent to the appropriate organisations. No more problems. Basically, I'm suggesting that Napster, iTunes and the new Yahoo music services, for example, could be made pointless and obsolete at ISP level. I'd pay a dollar or two. Wouldn't you?

Edit: I suppose this amounts to a p2p 'tax' but that's fine by me if it avoids legal problems and keeps costs down.

[battye]

A P2P tax on top of a monthly ISP bill is a great idea, I would pay a couple of dollars for legal downloads this way.

[ecto135back]

I second that one! i pay $20 a month fr 30gig's downloads/uploads. yes, I wanna use it! and what better way than p2p? why not try to bust the pervs on kazaa and so fourth with kiddie films and beastiality videos? now theres an idea! solve a crive where someone Is getting hurt!

-Brad

[battye]

I second that one! i pay $20 a month fr 30gig's downloads/uploads. yes, I wanna use it! and what better way than p2p? why not try to bust the pervs on kazaa and so fourth with kiddie films and beastiality videos? now theres an idea! solve a crive where someone Is getting hurt!

-Brad

I totally agree with you, they'll do anything to track down someone with a few songs, but these disgusting perverts who share child porn can carry on doing it no problems at all? Something is seriously screwed up there.